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		<title>By: Express partially apologises for cancer jab bullshit &#124; 6000 miles from civilisation...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Express partially apologises for cancer jab bullshit &#124; 6000 miles from civilisation...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on from my post about the Natalie Morton case- in which a 14-year old girl died from a thoracic tumour, coincidentally on the day that she [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 6000</title>
		<link>http://6000.co.za/damage-done/comment-page-1/#comment-14277</link>
		<dc:creator>6000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goblin &gt; I would make a terribly unpopular journalist. Agreed.

Rob &gt; 9/11, Sky News, Kay Burley: &quot;The entire Eastern Seaboard of the United States has been devastated by a terrorist attack.&quot; Awesome.

Po &gt; Correct. But who in Sky News or The Times (and, I&#039;m sure, may others) actually thinks that way?

Ro &gt; I&#039;m blissfully unhappy with getting my shock-hooror-skandaal[ sic] online, thanks. 

HH &gt; Education is the key to all these things. But some people just don&#039;t want to learn. Or they want to learn the wrong thing.

D &gt; Wakefield&#039;s Lancet jaunt was a watershed for publishing in peer-reviewed journals. That he could have take everyone (including one of the biggest medical journals) for a ride was incredible. His legacy lives on: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfrica/News/1059/2fcd79b292aa464bb181787da30b584f/30-09-2009%2005-32/Measles_hits_Gauteng_hardest&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gauteng measles outbreak - current&lt;/a&gt; He should be sued for hundreds, if not thousands of deaths. 

Stan &gt; Which is why you come here to read better quality nonsense?

Gregory &gt; Where to begin?
1. No, there is not a higher incidence of GBS associated with HPV vaccine. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaers/gardasil.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link:&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) has been reported after vaccination with Gardasil. GBS is a rare disorder that causes muscle weakness. It occurs in 1-2 out of every 100,000 people in their teens. A number of infections can cause GBS. There has been no indication that Gardasil increases the rate of GBS in girls and women above the rate expected in the general population, whether or not they were vaccinated.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I know this incident was with Cervarix, not Gardasil, but the differences between the two vaccines are cosmetic.

2. As an aside, cervical cancer is also (usually) fatal. In far more cases than GBS.

3. It is not irresponsible to give terminally ill child a shot, especially if you are unaware that she is terminally ill. Nor was she, at any stage, misdiagnosed by doctors - only by the media.

4. Nearly right, but I&#039;ll add one small correction:

&quot;She died &lt;b&gt;of a malignant thoraic tumour&lt;/b&gt; after getting the shot end of story.&quot;

She also probably had Weetabix for breakfast that morning and walked past a bakery on the way to school. Why aren&#039;t you (or the media) blaming them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goblin > I would make a terribly unpopular journalist. Agreed.</p>
<p>Rob > 9/11, Sky News, Kay Burley: &#8220;The entire Eastern Seaboard of the United States has been devastated by a terrorist attack.&#8221; Awesome.</p>
<p>Po > Correct. But who in Sky News or The Times (and, I&#8217;m sure, may others) actually thinks that way?</p>
<p>Ro > I&#8217;m blissfully unhappy with getting my shock-hooror-skandaal[ sic] online, thanks. </p>
<p>HH > Education is the key to all these things. But some people just don&#8217;t want to learn. Or they want to learn the wrong thing.</p>
<p>D > Wakefield&#8217;s Lancet jaunt was a watershed for publishing in peer-reviewed journals. That he could have take everyone (including one of the biggest medical journals) for a ride was incredible. His legacy lives on: <a href="http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfrica/News/1059/2fcd79b292aa464bb181787da30b584f/30-09-2009%2005-32/Measles_hits_Gauteng_hardest" rel="nofollow">Gauteng measles outbreak &#8211; current</a> He should be sued for hundreds, if not thousands of deaths. </p>
<p>Stan > Which is why you come here to read better quality nonsense?</p>
<p>Gregory > Where to begin?<br />
1. No, there is not a higher incidence of GBS associated with HPV vaccine. <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaers/gardasil.htm" rel="nofollow">Link:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) has been reported after vaccination with Gardasil. GBS is a rare disorder that causes muscle weakness. It occurs in 1-2 out of every 100,000 people in their teens. A number of infections can cause GBS. There has been no indication that Gardasil increases the rate of GBS in girls and women above the rate expected in the general population, whether or not they were vaccinated.</p></blockquote>
<p>I know this incident was with Cervarix, not Gardasil, but the differences between the two vaccines are cosmetic.</p>
<p>2. As an aside, cervical cancer is also (usually) fatal. In far more cases than GBS.</p>
<p>3. It is not irresponsible to give terminally ill child a shot, especially if you are unaware that she is terminally ill. Nor was she, at any stage, misdiagnosed by doctors &#8211; only by the media.</p>
<p>4. Nearly right, but I&#8217;ll add one small correction:</p>
<p>&#8220;She died <b>of a malignant thoraic tumour</b> after getting the shot end of story.&#8221;</p>
<p>She also probably had Weetabix for breakfast that morning and walked past a bakery on the way to school. Why aren&#8217;t you (or the media) blaming them?</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
		<link>http://6000.co.za/damage-done/comment-page-1/#comment-14276</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you denying there is a high incedence of GBS ?? and that this is sometimes fatal .... now is it not irresponsible to give a terminally ill child a shot that will cause fainting and have the doctors misdiagnose her and her die ... she died after getting the shot end of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you denying there is a high incedence of GBS ?? and that this is sometimes fatal &#8230;. now is it not irresponsible to give a terminally ill child a shot that will cause fainting and have the doctors misdiagnose her and her die &#8230; she died after getting the shot end of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://6000.co.za/damage-done/comment-page-1/#comment-14263</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The standards of journalism and the press today are abysmal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The standards of journalism and the press today are abysmal.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://6000.co.za/damage-done/comment-page-1/#comment-14260</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unfortunately there is already eveidence that the uptake rate for the vacine will be hit. Shades of the MMR unfounded panic. wht was said in the Uk before today&#039;s news was that urgent steps were being takedn to see if there was a link but it was thought that this was extremely unlikely. Still not enough for the worrying classes to get in to full swing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unfortunately there is already eveidence that the uptake rate for the vacine will be hit. Shades of the MMR unfounded panic. wht was said in the Uk before today&#8217;s news was that urgent steps were being takedn to see if there was a link but it was thought that this was extremely unlikely. Still not enough for the worrying classes to get in to full swing.</p>
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		<title>By: Helga Hansen</title>
		<link>http://6000.co.za/damage-done/comment-page-1/#comment-14258</link>
		<dc:creator>Helga Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the vaccine is a fabulous idea, but I wish they would spend half as much telling teenagers/young adults about other STDs which can affect/ruin their lives!!

But hey, why bother - there&#039;s always IVF treatment available years down the line! :P
.-= Helga Hansen&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://helgahansen.blogspot.com/2009/09/deep-thought-and-ultimate-question.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Deep Thought and The Ultimate Question&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the vaccine is a fabulous idea, but I wish they would spend half as much telling teenagers/young adults about other STDs which can affect/ruin their lives!!</p>
<p>But hey, why bother &#8211; there&#8217;s always IVF treatment available years down the line! <img src='http://6000.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span class="cluv"> Helga Hansen&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://helgahansen.blogspot.com/2009/09/deep-thought-and-ultimate-question.html" rel="nofollow">Deep Thought and The Ultimate Question</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://6000.co.za/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Ro</title>
		<link>http://6000.co.za/damage-done/comment-page-1/#comment-14257</link>
		<dc:creator>Ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should I organise you a subscription to the Daily Mail, or are you happy getting your shock-horror-scandal online? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should I organise you a subscription to the Daily Mail, or are you happy getting your shock-horror-scandal online? <img src='http://6000.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Po</title>
		<link>http://6000.co.za/damage-done/comment-page-1/#comment-14256</link>
		<dc:creator>Po</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh, yes this was all over the newspapers and my immediate &quot;consumer&quot; reaction was EEEP, how could a HPV vaccine kill someone?!

But now there will be thousands of people that won&#039;t get the vaccine, because they are scared of it.
.-= Po&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://southafricanseamonkey.blogspot.com/2009/10/insane-in-membrane.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Insane in the membrane&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh, yes this was all over the newspapers and my immediate &#8220;consumer&#8221; reaction was EEEP, how could a HPV vaccine kill someone?!</p>
<p>But now there will be thousands of people that won&#8217;t get the vaccine, because they are scared of it.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Po&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://southafricanseamonkey.blogspot.com/2009/10/insane-in-membrane.html" rel="nofollow">Insane in the membrane</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://6000.co.za/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Rob Inukshuk</title>
		<link>http://6000.co.za/damage-done/comment-page-1/#comment-14247</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Inukshuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ugly reality of insatiable 24 hour news TV - sounds like a good idea, but the price seems to be, as you point out, the truth is all too often missed in the rush to air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ugly reality of insatiable 24 hour news TV &#8211; sounds like a good idea, but the price seems to be, as you point out, the truth is all too often missed in the rush to air.</p>
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		<title>By: Goblin</title>
		<link>http://6000.co.za/damage-done/comment-page-1/#comment-14244</link>
		<dc:creator>Goblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tsk, you would make a terrible journalist in today&#039;s world. So worried about being responsible and giving people the facts instead of sensationalist half truths.
.-= Goblin&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goblintalk.co.za/2009/09/the-earth-moved/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The earth moved&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tsk, you would make a terrible journalist in today&#8217;s world. So worried about being responsible and giving people the facts instead of sensationalist half truths.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Goblin&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.goblintalk.co.za/2009/09/the-earth-moved/" rel="nofollow">The earth moved</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://6000.co.za/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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